[ Rather than neutral, Irving still looks nearly every bit as livid in person as he would have seemed over text, his face flushed and eyes wild, jaw tense, hands opening and closing restlessly into loose fists at his sides. His anger has cooled slightly during the walk over, the parts of him still not entirely blinded by irrationality aware enough that, yes, he will actually want to make up with Jack rather than remain furious and hurt -- he loves this man, after all, doesn't he? -- but for the moment, he's still not quite thought that far ahead yet. Irving feels things very strongly, when he feels them at all, it's difficult for him to ever think past what he's currently feeling until he's already found a way of moving on emotionally.
Right now though, he's still angry. Still hurt. He clenches his jaw, staring Jack down as he closes the door behind him, and tilting his chin slightly upward in making a pointed effort not to let his gaze sweep down over Jack's bare upper body. ]
Well, let's hear it, then, [ he says brusquely, gesturing with his arm as if prompting Jack to go on. ] Apologize for what you said about me.
[ He crosses his arms defensively in front of him, taking a breath as soon as he sees the steam practically coming out if Irving's ears, waiting to be told off. On exhale, he realizes that isn't happening (yet), and relaxes only the smallest bit. The arms stay crossed, suddenly feeling vulnerable in a way he doesn't like, though he didn't mean anything by his state of undress besides the fact he's trying to relax in his own home.
Jack meets his eyes, and doesn't back down from them, full of fury as they are. There's a fire in his too, more controlled, but only just. ]
No. You needed to hear it, and frankly, it's long overdue. You should apologize, for spending so much time trying to avoidĀ who I am, as if it were beneath you.
[ It doesn't occur to him for a minute that they wouldn't work through this and make up. His love is not so fickle, and he knows that it isn't something Irving takes lightly, either. Even so, for the other to be so staunchly against something so minor in the grand scheme of things, but important to Jack, might as well be a rejection. ]
You don't get to dismiss parts of me that are inconvenient for you. That isn't how this works.
I-- [ He blinks, falters for a beat, heart racing, momentarily at a loss for words. Then, like Jack: ] No.
[ Maybe this was a mistake. Irving isn't quite sure what he expected to happen here, how he thought this all would go, but that Jack would actually refuse to apologize to him for the truly hurtful things he'd written -- most of which Irving would still deny or disagree are true, therefore making them all the more inflammatory -- and then also demand that Irving apologize instead, was certainly not it. The accusation Jack levels back at him makes Irving bristle and immediately become defensive, all the usual openness to his demeanor which he offers freely to Jack only locking down all at once with the abruptness of a door slamming shut.
(He does know, though, that it's not really a mistake, obviously he wouldn't want them to just stay angry with each other indefinitely, or Heaven forbid, fall out over this, but--
But he shares none of the same confidence that Jack holds in the strength and commitment of his love, he has no context with which to know if a fight like this is normal, if everything that's finally been dragged out into the open are things which love can actually recover from. What does he know, really, about love? Almost nothing.)
After a drawn-out silence, spanning maybe 30 or 40 seconds as he's caught briefly within his own speechlessness, Irving clenches his jaw and tenses his shoulders, looking appalled as he keeps his wide-eyed glare level with Jack's. When he does speak again he keeps his voice low, but for once it's stern rather than soft, something grave and unyielding about it. ]
Aren't you one to talk. As if I can't tell how you really feel now, as well. [ He touches his chest, over his heart, before closing his hand like a claw around a handful of shirt. ] You think I deserved it, don't you. What he did to me.
[ The stowaway that you had mutilated.
It seems so obvious, but then, didn't he also know this already? Suspected it, at least. There are reasons, after all, and good ones, too, for why Irving has shoved all his memories of that dream down as deep, deep inside himself as possible.
Yes, there is much of Jack's piratehood which Irving finds quite unsavory, much of it he does prefer to avoid, or at least avoid acknowledging, but is that really so wrong? He doesn't see what the difference is between that and Jack's own vocal disrespect for the Royal Navy. ]
I've defended you, time after time from the only other man in this whole city whom I couldn't bear to lose now. And from-- [ Actually, he reconsiders bringing up Victor. ] From... others who might accuse you. But can you really blame me, Jack, if there are still parts I would also rather be able to just forget about?
[ Itās Jackās turn to look as if heās been struck across the face, mouth falling open from the offense of it, the audacity of it, and, finally, because some small kernel of it is true. Or...was true? Itās a complex, delicate situation which, like just about anything Jack dips his hands into, canāt be boiled down so simply to right or wrong. Heād have likely done the same in Hickeyās place, but he would never be in Hickeyās place, for any dozens of reasons ā and does that mean that Irving deserved it? No. It only means the situation was fucked from the start. ]
You canāt be serious. I crushed that man for you, John. Like he was nothing but a bug to me, skittering under my heel, so that you could be comfortable, striding in here and accusing me of taking his fucking side.
[ He grips the back of a kitchen chair, so hard that his knuckles go white, nails making indents in the wood. He knows that he canāt fight with him the way that heāll fight with Anne ā yell until someone storms out, safely knowing that that the other will crawl into bed with an apology by lightās out ā yes, he loves him, and he feels secure in that, but itās not lived in the same way, there are still rhythms and quirks to the other that theyāve yet to learn. It would have happened eventually, as āagree to disagreeā canāt be enough to cover the creeds by which they live their lives, some things you can only learn this way.
When his eyes lift again to meet Irvingās, the ice in them has melted off. This has all gone unspoken, for their entire time together, any detail at all about whatever feelings had existed between he and Hickey beyond his obligation as a Dominant. It had always been for the best, not to mix the two, but Irving needs to know, it was a sacrifice, one he is increasingly passionate about as he goes on. ]
And I never doubted it, even knowing that he and I would never have this argument, and that he gets on better with Anne. I spent so much time chipping away at him, convincing him to trust me, putting blood on my hands to protect him, and I threw it away. For you! Your comfort, John, over the whole of a man. For you to come in here, for you to note his absence, and still question my loyalty to you is...
[ Jack shakes his head. A rare sight, him lost for words. Disrespectful? Hurtful? No one word seems like enough. ]
If anyone deserves his wrath, itās me. But I donāt care. I chose you. I love you. You must know this.
[ Something in Irving's eyes almost immediately softens upon seeing that look on Jack's face, so stricken, offended, and hurt, exactly as Irving had felt earlier about some of the things Jack had written about him. It brings him no pleasure seeing Jack wear such a broken apart expression that doesn't at all seem to belong on his face, when just moments ago he'd been so controlled, so tense with stoic fury; it hurts his heart, and Irving does at least have the decency to cast his eyes down to the floor in shame for being the one to cause it, yet he still doesn't regret what he said, either.
Nothing could make Irving happier than to be wrong about who, between himself and Hickey, Jack's sympathies about their past truly lie with, if what he said is wrong then that's a good thing, but he doesn't believe he was ever wrong to think it.
Irving lets out a breath, covering his face under both palms just to allow himself that moment, however brief, to think before he speaks next. Not to plan it out, but to hold back all that's been rising in his throat to rest so easily on his tongue, not arguments but all the unforgiving, jagged-edged details from the earlier days of this convoluted saga of theirs which still stick in him like thorns-- things he has forgiven, but that doesn't mean the scars of those memories never still hurt him sometimes, never throb dully under his skin, an ache that's always there. If that had been the case, how much would even be left for them to be fighting about now, except a flag?
But he's let those things go however much it's actually possible to, for this, for them, because what he didn't want is for any of that to define them, to ruin everything they've managed somehow, despite the odds, to salvage, heal, make better. Irving doesn't want to ruin this, but he could, and the ease to which that instinct still comes is what disturbs him; how easy it would be to just walk away. That's always his first reflex, isn't it? To either run from something or to yell at it, like a damn dog.
Or else he freezes up, like now. Caught between one action and another.
He lowers his hands and finally lets his gaze settle on Jack's again, softer than it had been before, though certainly, the outrage and upset are still not gone from his wide, wounded eyes. The conflict shining in them is more transparent now, too, as he glowers steadily and smolderingly forward. ]
You would have me renounce my whole life for you, everything that's ever brought me meaning, but indeed, what a sacrifice for you it is to have finally chosen between either having him simply move elsewhere, or ever having me come into your flat at all. Not that I made you do it-- I wasn't even going to ask. I couldn't.
[ If Hickey really hadn't born him any further grudge here, he certainly must now; Irving is quite convinced of that. In Hickey's mind, he surely would share at least half the blame as Jack. Maybe it's ungenerous of Irving, that hearing just how much Jack feels he gave up with Hickey, hearing point after point listed out like this, doesn't make him feel any better. It doesn't make him happy to hear Jack describe what he feels he gained in return so trivially, as if Irving's comfort is the only reason. As if it wasn't the whole of one man in exchange for the whole of another. ]
My comfort over the whole of a man. The man who-- do you hear yourself, Jack? And you wonder why I'd have to ask. Am I not a whole man, too? Yet I was so proud, a-and grateful, that between the two of us you had decided I might be the one worth putting first.
[ And he really, truly was. Still is, though he leaves part unspoken. It's probably still obvious enough anyway.
He looks away now, casts his gaze sharply aside, emotion tight in his throat and in his chest. If he lets go of his anger now he'll probably just burst into tears, which may still happen anyway if this keeps up, but it's the last thing he wants. Irving crosses his arms over his chest rigidly to hug himself, a movement that's far too vulnerable but that he still can't stop himself making, his posture and grip so tightly clenched he looks like he's trying to contract into himself entirely.
And despite himself, he softens anyway: ]
That was when I knew you must really have meant it. That you... what you said.
[ He bites his cheek, and clenches his jaw, still avoiding eye contact, but continues: ]
Never before did I imagine I would ever be hearing those words from anyone. Nor especially did I ever think I'd be saying them. To only feel it is one thing, or... to know it, but you must know that you're... the first and the last person who will ever hear this from me. I love you. A-and I do love you. But--
[ Now he looks up again, his expression pained and miserable. ]
There are some things I can't just change, Jack. About... myself. [ His mind full of poison... ] I thought you understood that about me. That you were the one who did understand.
[ Jack watches wide-eyed as Irving covers his face in his hands, heart dropping fast and heavy, like it's been tied to an anchor and all the rest of him is simply water, yielding and transparent. He doesn't want to hurt him, and yet, they both know that there was a time when he did, and try as he might he hasn't been able to escape the consequences of it. Even if they've moved past it as best as they're able, it's still colored their relationship and put a black spot on his soul that he can't wash out.
For as long as he's allowed, he'll be trying to make up for those hurtful lies and that fucking dream, an eternal penance he's perfectly willing to pay, because the reward of Irving's companionship has been worth it. Despite all the shit that's threatened to come between them, and may well have succeeded with any pair less terminally stubborn than the two of them, even the ache of it is worth it, for it's only further evidence of how real and valuable this is. They've built something that they've both needed, but could only exist here. He's not letting go of it for anything, not Hickey, and certainly not a damn banner.
His teeth catch the inside of his lip, as he watches him speak, unable to help the frustrated sigh he lets out before he's finished. It's not about just physically relocating Hickey, but hurting him, and having with the guilt of being the first man to ever touch him gently, only to send him away in favor of another. It's an important distinction, to him, but it's hardly the point of this. That much, at least, is sorted. ]
Are you? [ His voice softens to meet Irving's, the hurt and the fury still present, but their edges sanded off, focused into this. An honest question. ] Are you whole? You devoted your life to something that would renounce you in an instant, if it knew what you were. I don't see how you could be. I don't see how I could do anything but urge you to leave that rot behind. You deserve better than that.
[ His hands ease their grip on the back of the chair, clammy enough now that Jack wipes them at his sides. The affirmation does a lot to cool him down, because as confident as he is in his own ability to move past all this, Irving's is still untested. That he believes in this, and what they have, enough to even want to push through all of this, should be enough proof of his devotion, but he'll prove it a hundred more times and in a hundred more ways, if that's what he needs from him.
Jack takes a step forward, slow and tentative. He wants to pull him close, to whisper words of comfort and understanding directly into his face so that he might truly absorb them, but he doesn't, not confident yet that it would be welcome. But he loosens, relaxes the tension in his shoulders, lays one hand on the table.
The first and the last. What a commitment that is. What a responsibility for Jack to bear. ]
I understand, John. I do. I understand that this is difficult, and that it takes time. I left the Navy fifteen years ago, and still, I couldn't muster the courage to let myself feel this way until coming to this place. I know you can't just flip a page and be done with it, but you can acknowledge that it's no longer serving you, and that I am not a villain to rebel against it.
[ The first and the last. Irving wouldn't presume to know their future, but he knows himself just well enough to feel certain that if things didn't work out with Jack, he couldn't do this again. It's already taken him his whole life to fall in love with just one person, something which was never meant to be in old life, or supposed to happen to him, here-- it just did.
(Not that it would occur to him to specify further. He still doesn't realize how impenetrable his logic can often be.)
And, hard as it's been, Irving's glad it happened. He doesn't need a straightforward, easily digestible fairytale love story, and he never did. If Jopson still assumes he's being manipulated or made a joke of somehow, or that he's only settling for the first man to actually... kiss him, then Irving doesn't even need his approval, either, as much as he still would like it. However imperfect or unideal some of it's been, however flawed they are, however mismatched they may seem or wrong it sounds just on the face of it, he isn't settling and he's definitely not being tricked. This is something real, and valuable, something they both needed, and there's just no easy way to make anyone else understand it.
Jack softening as he has does much to cool Irving down as well, though he still remains just as tense and bristled. Less defensive, and therefore less explosive, but all that emotion and adrenaline hasn't gone anywhere. He doesn't know where to put it yet, so for now he just holds it in. The words make him flinch, but it's in a more expected way this time, less that of someone being struck and more someone only bracing to be. It still hurts to hear it, but this time it doesn't make him recoil defensively and want to respond in kind, shout things back that he might not even fully mean, because it's clearer than with anything he'd said before -- especially when they were still using their devices to argue, maybe part of it's a tone thing -- Jack doesn't mean it unkindly. There's no kinder way to say it, really, if one is going to at all, and though Irving can still disagree with it all he likes, it wouldn't pain him so much to hear if he couldn't recognize at least some truth in it, if similar things had never once crossed his mind before.
Maybe he did waste most of his life with the Navy. But what else was there? What kind of other, better life could he have possibly deserved? ]
Of course I'm whole, Jack. What else would I be?
[ Broken? Incomplete? He shakes his head, taking a step forward towards Jack. Then another. Closing their distance. ]
I don't want to discuss this anymore, let's just-- let's move on now. Please.
[ He's braced, too, for the possibility Jack might accuse him of being cowardly, and it would be fair enough to do so, given how much Irving can't yet bring himself to admit or acknowledge. Or maybe Jack also feels as emotionally staggered by their fighting as Irving does and would appreciate some relief from it, considering they've basically been having an entire relationship's worth of arguments in one just now. Irving looks at him, eyes wide and uncertain, yet guarded, like he doesn't know where to go from here, or hasn't decided yet where he might want to, but extends an arm out in Jack's direction, holding out his hand. The gesture feels as good a place as any to start. ]
[ If he were a more petty man, he'd call the argument won. If it's easier for Irving to drop it altogether than to defend the institution whose values caused this mess in the first place, that says it all, doesn't it? But this wasn't meant to be a battle. Jack's offense isn't born from the insistence that they find a flag that suits them both, but that Irving would, after all this time together, not understand what it means to him.
It's unlikely this crew is going to, technically, be a pirate crew in the first place, what with no prizes to take or other ships to plunder. Even if they were to come across one, with an inexperienced skeleton crew, trying to take it would likely be suicide. It's the spirit of piracy more than the act itself. The violence, after all, has never been Jack's strongest suit. He'a more interested in the refusal to lay down and accept what they're told, the search for a place away from the oppressive rigidity of the society they'd otherwise be trapped in. Isn't that exactly what they're doing here?
Jack takes his hand loosely, rubbing his thumb back and forth across his palm. It's as good a place as any, sure, but it doesn't resolve anything, doesn't stop this argument from restarting tomorrow, or festering until it explodes like a volcano beyond either of their control. He looks straight across at him, hurt still shining in his eyes, but lessened, slightly, by the gesture. ]
It was never my intention to hurt you, John. But I need to you to understand that I am not pushing you towards devilry, but freedom. Tell me you understand that.
[ As Jack takes Irving's hand, smooths over the palm gently with his thumb, Irving allows his hand to squeeze slightly around Jack's, using the connection to draw himself closer. The unguarded hurt in Jack's eyes is a rare enough sight for Irving -- not that it being a familiar one would make him feel any less terrible -- to wish he could somehow take it all back, go all the way to the start of this argument and just take the feedback about the blasted dove and skull narrative. The journey they took to get from there to where they've ended feels incomprehensible to him now.
Irving's own eyes remain large and wet themselves as they stare into Jack's, and he nods slowly. Yes, he knows. Maybe he's never acknowledged it in those terms even to himself before now, but if he believed anything else, would he even still be here? Could he have fallen in love with anyone he felt was not, in some way, saving him from something, rather than dragging him down into further doom and ruin?
No, he doesn't think so. Their differences are what they are, and there will probably always be differences there which threaten but (hopefully) still fail to come between them, but despite whatever concerns Jopson may harbor, Irving's fears about corruption and the state of his soul were never really about Jack in specific. ]
I don't want to hurt you either. O-or seem... ungrateful for what you've done for me. You know that I am grateful. I know how much you care for me.
[ The faint shadows cast by Jack across his face make Irving's eyes seem a washed out grey, like their combined pain has somehow drained all the color from them. He squeezes Jack's hand, barely blinking. ]
And I don't think that you're beneath me, either. However much I may still struggle with your... with... all the piracy, it's not that I look down on you or your reasons for it. But you know it's complicated for me, Jack. Just like I know how my Royal Navy career has been complicated, for you and... me both.
[ His gaze lowers slowly, dropping towards the floor. ]
I know your flag is important to you, I don't mean to disrespect that. I just thought ours should somehow... be meaningful to both of us. Represent the both of us.
[ Jack squeezes back, the hurt still in his eyes, but more subdued, able to pull himself together as he takes in all of him, every word and every movement to make sure heās not simply being placated because Irving is tired of the back and forth. He too, is tired of it, the escalation that could tempt them both to say things that canāt be taken back or explained away, not to mention the time being taken away from actually getting the flag figured out, but this is a place where the two of them differ. Heād rather shout it out and be done with it, and heās been lucky that Anne is the same, that they grew into that preference together as a survival mechanism, their stations always too precarious to risk not being a united front for very long.
John Irving and Anne Bonny are two very, very, very different people. This whole thing would be redundant otherwise, wouldnāt it? The way that Jack has handled things has had to shift to meet Irving where he is plenty of times already, and he can do it again, as long as itās honest, and not just putting the fight out further, more dangerously close to their departure (weather and Anne permitting) than they already are.
But itās Irving, so of course itās honest. He'd bolt for the door before lying to him, heās never been able to, and he sure isnāt going to muster the fortitude to do so now, with heightened emotions and Jackās hand in his. ]
Itās always been complicated, you and I. Wasnāt expecting that to change now. Come here.
[ Jack gives his hand a tug, to pull him into his arms for a tight, hopefully reassuring, hug. ]
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Right now though, he's still angry. Still hurt. He clenches his jaw, staring Jack down as he closes the door behind him, and tilting his chin slightly upward in making a pointed effort not to let his gaze sweep down over Jack's bare upper body. ]
Well, let's hear it, then, [ he says brusquely, gesturing with his arm as if prompting Jack to go on. ] Apologize for what you said about me.
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Jack meets his eyes, and doesn't back down from them, full of fury as they are. There's a fire in his too, more controlled, but only just. ]
No. You needed to hear it, and frankly, it's long overdue. You should apologize, for spending so much time trying to avoidĀ who I am, as if it were beneath you.
[ It doesn't occur to him for a minute that they wouldn't work through this and make up. His love is not so fickle, and he knows that it isn't something Irving takes lightly, either. Even so, for the other to be so staunchly against something so minor in the grand scheme of things, but important to Jack, might as well be a rejection. ]
You don't get to dismiss parts of me that are inconvenient for you. That isn't how this works.
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[ Maybe this was a mistake. Irving isn't quite sure what he expected to happen here, how he thought this all would go, but that Jack would actually refuse to apologize to him for the truly hurtful things he'd written -- most of which Irving would still deny or disagree are true, therefore making them all the more inflammatory -- and then also demand that Irving apologize instead, was certainly not it. The accusation Jack levels back at him makes Irving bristle and immediately become defensive, all the usual openness to his demeanor which he offers freely to Jack only locking down all at once with the abruptness of a door slamming shut.
(He does know, though, that it's not really a mistake, obviously he wouldn't want them to just stay angry with each other indefinitely, or Heaven forbid, fall out over this, but--
But he shares none of the same confidence that Jack holds in the strength and commitment of his love, he has no context with which to know if a fight like this is normal, if everything that's finally been dragged out into the open are things which love can actually recover from. What does he know, really, about love? Almost nothing.)
After a drawn-out silence, spanning maybe 30 or 40 seconds as he's caught briefly within his own speechlessness, Irving clenches his jaw and tenses his shoulders, looking appalled as he keeps his wide-eyed glare level with Jack's. When he does speak again he keeps his voice low, but for once it's stern rather than soft, something grave and unyielding about it. ]
Aren't you one to talk. As if I can't tell how you really feel now, as well. [ He touches his chest, over his heart, before closing his hand like a claw around a handful of shirt. ] You think I deserved it, don't you. What he did to me.
[ The stowaway that you had mutilated.
It seems so obvious, but then, didn't he also know this already? Suspected it, at least. There are reasons, after all, and good ones, too, for why Irving has shoved all his memories of that dream down as deep, deep inside himself as possible.
Yes, there is much of Jack's piratehood which Irving finds quite unsavory, much of it he does prefer to avoid, or at least avoid acknowledging, but is that really so wrong? He doesn't see what the difference is between that and Jack's own vocal disrespect for the Royal Navy. ]
I've defended you, time after time from the only other man in this whole city whom I couldn't bear to lose now. And from-- [ Actually, he reconsiders bringing up Victor. ] From... others who might accuse you. But can you really blame me, Jack, if there are still parts I would also rather be able to just forget about?
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[ Itās Jackās turn to look as if heās been struck across the face, mouth falling open from the offense of it, the audacity of it, and, finally, because some small kernel of it is true. Or...was true? Itās a complex, delicate situation which, like just about anything Jack dips his hands into, canāt be boiled down so simply to right or wrong. Heād have likely done the same in Hickeyās place, but he would never be in Hickeyās place, for any dozens of reasons ā and does that mean that Irving deserved it? No. It only means the situation was fucked from the start. ]
You canāt be serious. I crushed that man for you, John. Like he was nothing but a bug to me, skittering under my heel, so that you could be comfortable, striding in here and accusing me of taking his fucking side.
[ He grips the back of a kitchen chair, so hard that his knuckles go white, nails making indents in the wood. He knows that he canāt fight with him the way that heāll fight with Anne ā yell until someone storms out, safely knowing that that the other will crawl into bed with an apology by lightās out ā yes, he loves him, and he feels secure in that, but itās not lived in the same way, there are still rhythms and quirks to the other that theyāve yet to learn. It would have happened eventually, as āagree to disagreeā canāt be enough to cover the creeds by which they live their lives, some things you can only learn this way.
When his eyes lift again to meet Irvingās, the ice in them has melted off. This has all gone unspoken, for their entire time together, any detail at all about whatever feelings had existed between he and Hickey beyond his obligation as a Dominant. It had always been for the best, not to mix the two, but Irving needs to know, it was a sacrifice, one he is increasingly passionate about as he goes on. ]
And I never doubted it, even knowing that he and I would never have this argument, and that he gets on better with Anne. I spent so much time chipping away at him, convincing him to trust me, putting blood on my hands to protect him, and I threw it away. For you! Your comfort, John, over the whole of a man. For you to come in here, for you to note his absence, and still question my loyalty to you is...
[ Jack shakes his head. A rare sight, him lost for words. Disrespectful? Hurtful? No one word seems like enough. ]
If anyone deserves his wrath, itās me. But I donāt care. I chose you. I love you. You must know this.
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Nothing could make Irving happier than to be wrong about who, between himself and Hickey, Jack's sympathies about their past truly lie with, if what he said is wrong then that's a good thing, but he doesn't believe he was ever wrong to think it.
Irving lets out a breath, covering his face under both palms just to allow himself that moment, however brief, to think before he speaks next. Not to plan it out, but to hold back all that's been rising in his throat to rest so easily on his tongue, not arguments but all the unforgiving, jagged-edged details from the earlier days of this convoluted saga of theirs which still stick in him like thorns-- things he has forgiven, but that doesn't mean the scars of those memories never still hurt him sometimes, never throb dully under his skin, an ache that's always there. If that had been the case, how much would even be left for them to be fighting about now, except a flag?
But he's let those things go however much it's actually possible to, for this, for them, because what he didn't want is for any of that to define them, to ruin everything they've managed somehow, despite the odds, to salvage, heal, make better. Irving doesn't want to ruin this, but he could, and the ease to which that instinct still comes is what disturbs him; how easy it would be to just walk away. That's always his first reflex, isn't it? To either run from something or to yell at it, like a damn dog.
Or else he freezes up, like now. Caught between one action and another.
He lowers his hands and finally lets his gaze settle on Jack's again, softer than it had been before, though certainly, the outrage and upset are still not gone from his wide, wounded eyes. The conflict shining in them is more transparent now, too, as he glowers steadily and smolderingly forward. ]
You would have me renounce my whole life for you, everything that's ever brought me meaning, but indeed, what a sacrifice for you it is to have finally chosen between either having him simply move elsewhere, or ever having me come into your flat at all. Not that I made you do it-- I wasn't even going to ask. I couldn't.
[ If Hickey really hadn't born him any further grudge here, he certainly must now; Irving is quite convinced of that. In Hickey's mind, he surely would share at least half the blame as Jack. Maybe it's ungenerous of Irving, that hearing just how much Jack feels he gave up with Hickey, hearing point after point listed out like this, doesn't make him feel any better. It doesn't make him happy to hear Jack describe what he feels he gained in return so trivially, as if Irving's comfort is the only reason. As if it wasn't the whole of one man in exchange for the whole of another. ]
My comfort over the whole of a man. The man who-- do you hear yourself, Jack? And you wonder why I'd have to ask. Am I not a whole man, too? Yet I was so proud, a-and grateful, that between the two of us you had decided I might be the one worth putting first.
[ And he really, truly was. Still is, though he leaves part unspoken. It's probably still obvious enough anyway.
He looks away now, casts his gaze sharply aside, emotion tight in his throat and in his chest. If he lets go of his anger now he'll probably just burst into tears, which may still happen anyway if this keeps up, but it's the last thing he wants. Irving crosses his arms over his chest rigidly to hug himself, a movement that's far too vulnerable but that he still can't stop himself making, his posture and grip so tightly clenched he looks like he's trying to contract into himself entirely.
And despite himself, he softens anyway: ]
That was when I knew you must really have meant it. That you... what you said.
[ He bites his cheek, and clenches his jaw, still avoiding eye contact, but continues: ]
Never before did I imagine I would ever be hearing those words from anyone. Nor especially did I ever think I'd be saying them. To only feel it is one thing, or... to know it, but you must know that you're... the first and the last person who will ever hear this from me. I love you. A-and I do love you. But--
[ Now he looks up again, his expression pained and miserable. ]
There are some things I can't just change, Jack. About... myself. [ His mind full of poison... ] I thought you understood that about me. That you were the one who did understand.
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For as long as he's allowed, he'll be trying to make up for those hurtful lies and that fucking dream, an eternal penance he's perfectly willing to pay, because the reward of Irving's companionship has been worth it. Despite all the shit that's threatened to come between them, and may well have succeeded with any pair less terminally stubborn than the two of them, even the ache of it is worth it, for it's only further evidence of how real and valuable this is. They've built something that they've both needed, but could only exist here. He's not letting go of it for anything, not Hickey, and certainly not a damn banner.
His teeth catch the inside of his lip, as he watches him speak, unable to help the frustrated sigh he lets out before he's finished. It's not about just physically relocating Hickey, but hurting him, and having with the guilt of being the first man to ever touch him gently, only to send him away in favor of another. It's an important distinction, to him, but it's hardly the point of this. That much, at least, is sorted. ]
Are you? [ His voice softens to meet Irving's, the hurt and the fury still present, but their edges sanded off, focused into this. An honest question. ] Are you whole? You devoted your life to something that would renounce you in an instant, if it knew what you were. I don't see how you could be. I don't see how I could do anything but urge you to leave that rot behind. You deserve better than that.
[ His hands ease their grip on the back of the chair, clammy enough now that Jack wipes them at his sides. The affirmation does a lot to cool him down, because as confident as he is in his own ability to move past all this, Irving's is still untested. That he believes in this, and what they have, enough to even want to push through all of this, should be enough proof of his devotion, but he'll prove it a hundred more times and in a hundred more ways, if that's what he needs from him.
Jack takes a step forward, slow and tentative. He wants to pull him close, to whisper words of comfort and understanding directly into his face so that he might truly absorb them, but he doesn't, not confident yet that it would be welcome. But he loosens, relaxes the tension in his shoulders, lays one hand on the table.
The first and the last. What a commitment that is. What a responsibility for Jack to bear. ]
I understand, John. I do. I understand that this is difficult, and that it takes time. I left the Navy fifteen years ago, and still, I couldn't muster the courage to let myself feel this way until coming to this place. I know you can't just flip a page and be done with it, but you can acknowledge that it's no longer serving you, and that I am not a villain to rebel against it.
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(Not that it would occur to him to specify further. He still doesn't realize how impenetrable his logic can often be.)
And, hard as it's been, Irving's glad it happened. He doesn't need a straightforward, easily digestible fairytale love story, and he never did. If Jopson still assumes he's being manipulated or made a joke of somehow, or that he's only settling for the first man to actually... kiss him, then Irving doesn't even need his approval, either, as much as he still would like it. However imperfect or unideal some of it's been, however flawed they are, however mismatched they may seem or wrong it sounds just on the face of it, he isn't settling and he's definitely not being tricked. This is something real, and valuable, something they both needed, and there's just no easy way to make anyone else understand it.
Jack softening as he has does much to cool Irving down as well, though he still remains just as tense and bristled. Less defensive, and therefore less explosive, but all that emotion and adrenaline hasn't gone anywhere. He doesn't know where to put it yet, so for now he just holds it in. The words make him flinch, but it's in a more expected way this time, less that of someone being struck and more someone only bracing to be. It still hurts to hear it, but this time it doesn't make him recoil defensively and want to respond in kind, shout things back that he might not even fully mean, because it's clearer than with anything he'd said before -- especially when they were still using their devices to argue, maybe part of it's a tone thing -- Jack doesn't mean it unkindly. There's no kinder way to say it, really, if one is going to at all, and though Irving can still disagree with it all he likes, it wouldn't pain him so much to hear if he couldn't recognize at least some truth in it, if similar things had never once crossed his mind before.
Maybe he did waste most of his life with the Navy. But what else was there? What kind of other, better life could he have possibly deserved? ]
Of course I'm whole, Jack. What else would I be?
[ Broken? Incomplete? He shakes his head, taking a step forward towards Jack. Then another. Closing their distance. ]
I don't want to discuss this anymore, let's just-- let's move on now. Please.
[ He's braced, too, for the possibility Jack might accuse him of being cowardly, and it would be fair enough to do so, given how much Irving can't yet bring himself to admit or acknowledge. Or maybe Jack also feels as emotionally staggered by their fighting as Irving does and would appreciate some relief from it, considering they've basically been having an entire relationship's worth of arguments in one just now. Irving looks at him, eyes wide and uncertain, yet guarded, like he doesn't know where to go from here, or hasn't decided yet where he might want to, but extends an arm out in Jack's direction, holding out his hand. The gesture feels as good a place as any to start. ]
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It's unlikely this crew is going to, technically, be a pirate crew in the first place, what with no prizes to take or other ships to plunder. Even if they were to come across one, with an inexperienced skeleton crew, trying to take it would likely be suicide. It's the spirit of piracy more than the act itself. The violence, after all, has never been Jack's strongest suit. He'a more interested in the refusal to lay down and accept what they're told, the search for a place away from the oppressive rigidity of the society they'd otherwise be trapped in. Isn't that exactly what they're doing here?
Jack takes his hand loosely, rubbing his thumb back and forth across his palm. It's as good a place as any, sure, but it doesn't resolve anything, doesn't stop this argument from restarting tomorrow, or festering until it explodes like a volcano beyond either of their control. He looks straight across at him, hurt still shining in his eyes, but lessened, slightly, by the gesture. ]
It was never my intention to hurt you, John. But I need to you to understand that I am not pushing you towards devilry, but freedom. Tell me you understand that.
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Irving's own eyes remain large and wet themselves as they stare into Jack's, and he nods slowly. Yes, he knows. Maybe he's never acknowledged it in those terms even to himself before now, but if he believed anything else, would he even still be here? Could he have fallen in love with anyone he felt was not, in some way, saving him from something, rather than dragging him down into further doom and ruin?
No, he doesn't think so. Their differences are what they are, and there will probably always be differences there which threaten but (hopefully) still fail to come between them, but despite whatever concerns Jopson may harbor, Irving's fears about corruption and the state of his soul were never really about Jack in specific. ]
I don't want to hurt you either. O-or seem... ungrateful for what you've done for me. You know that I am grateful. I know how much you care for me.
[ The faint shadows cast by Jack across his face make Irving's eyes seem a washed out grey, like their combined pain has somehow drained all the color from them. He squeezes Jack's hand, barely blinking. ]
And I don't think that you're beneath me, either. However much I may still struggle with your... with... all the piracy, it's not that I look down on you or your reasons for it. But you know it's complicated for me, Jack. Just like I know how my Royal Navy career has been complicated, for you and... me both.
[ His gaze lowers slowly, dropping towards the floor. ]
I know your flag is important to you, I don't mean to disrespect that. I just thought ours should somehow... be meaningful to both of us. Represent the both of us.
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John Irving and Anne Bonny are two very, very, very different people. This whole thing would be redundant otherwise, wouldnāt it? The way that Jack has handled things has had to shift to meet Irving where he is plenty of times already, and he can do it again, as long as itās honest, and not just putting the fight out further, more dangerously close to their departure (weather and Anne permitting) than they already are.
But itās Irving, so of course itās honest. He'd bolt for the door before lying to him, heās never been able to, and he sure isnāt going to muster the fortitude to do so now, with heightened emotions and Jackās hand in his. ]
Itās always been complicated, you and I. Wasnāt expecting that to change now. Come here.
[ Jack gives his hand a tug, to pull him into his arms for a tight, hopefully reassuring, hug. ]
It will. We havenāt found it yet, but it will.